Complicating the situation is the fact that the Haredim don't give a crap about "tikkun olanm", healing the world, or all that universal human rights bushwa that secular Jews like to polish their halos with. As far as the Haredim are concerned, "f*ck the goyim, who needs &#.93em;" Sounds like the Haredim are people we can do business with, in a manner of speaking. At least we operate from the same premises.